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2011年8月26日 星期五

Mercury News interview: Morris Chang, founder, chairman, CEO of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co.

 By JOHN BOUDREAU | Mercury News, Bay Area News Group
August 26, 2011 at 8:35 a.m.

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He is the tech revolutionary who wears a suit, not a black turtleneck like Apple’s Steve Jobs. He isn’t in the pop spotlight, like Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg, who had a Hollywood movie made about his rise. Nor does he have the swagger of Oracle’s Larry Ellison.

But Morris Chang rearranged the global tech world like few others when he founded TSMC, or Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., in 1987. The company was based on a radical business model: A foundry-for-hire would make semiconductors for customers but never compete with them or put any claims on their intellectual property. He helped jump-start the tech economy of Taiwan and provided the impetus for the emergence of the fabless chip industry in Silicon Valley and across the globe. When he shows up at public events in Taiwan, reporters and TV crews swarm him with paparazzi ferocity.

Today, fabless semiconductor companies have grown into a $73 billion-plus industry and TSMC dominates the contract foundry industry with about 50 percent market share. Taiwan, meanwhile, is a technology powerhouse.

“There are very few people who do things that literally transform an industry and it’s not an exaggeration to say that is what Morris did,” said James Plummer, dean of the school of engineering at Stanford University.

For his accomplishments, Chang on Aug. 20 was awarded the prestigious Medal of Honor from IEEE, the world’s largest technology association. Previous awards have included 10 Nobel Prize winners.

Chang, 80, sat down with this newspaper earlier this week at TSMC’s North American headquarters in San Jose. Here is an edited version of the interview:

Q: You created a new industry when you founded TSMC.
A: That model certainly affected the world semiconductor industry and, I think, the world electronics industry. I really had no competitors at the beginning. We were just a small company in Taiwan. (The semiconductor industry) didn’t pay much attention to us. They didn’t think we were going anywhere. We started in 1987. Later that year or in 1988, (Intel’s) Andy Grove visited Taiwan and decided to drop in and look at TSMC. I showed him we were getting good yields on 3-micron technology, which was 21/2 generations behind Intel and Texas Instruments, but we were getting yields and he was impressed. He said, “Maybe Intel can use you.”By the early ’90s, fabless (companies) grew up like bamboo shoots. They needed us and we needed them.

1988年Andy Grove 臨時参訪台積電。

1988年台積電製程工藝 3微米 工藝製程差Intel (一軍)2.5代(5年)
1988年台積電 製程良率Andy Grove印象深刻 (應該是比一軍高很多)
#良率

Q: You have obviously spent a lot of time in Silicon Valley. Companies here rely on TSMC to make chips for their devices. Taiwan component makers design and manufacture key parts of everything from iPads to laptops. How do you describe that relationship evolving ?

A: I think it’s a productive relationship. But I also think that maybe Silicon Valley or the United States has given up too much manufacturing. The situation is that Asia — Taiwan, China and now other countries — has basically taken over the manufacturing end. We are not the most prominent part of it. We don’t hire that many people. TSMC is a very high-value-added company … and we have 30,000 people. Our value-add per employee is a lot like the technology companies in the United States — HP, IBM. Hon Hai (the world’s largest gadget manufacturer for companies such as Apple and Hewlett-Packard and more commonly known by its trade name, Foxconn), they have close to a million employees, almost all in China.

I am an American. I am worried. I think a lot of stuff should not be given up. The United States can learn from Intel. They have kept as much as possible in the United States. You can look at automation tools that minimize labor hours. Intel looked for those ways and they are very successful.

Our costs are more determined by the quality of engineering than by the wage level of the manufacturing location. We have a manufacturing operation in China, which has a lower wage level, but the quality of engineering is not as good as Taiwan’s. Therefore total costs are higher (in China).

台積電經營成本 (工程質量/工資) 
大陸廠的工資比台灣廠低 
大陸廠的工程質量比台灣廠低
Total cost = 工程質量 - 工資 
#良率

Q: Can China supplant Taiwan as the world’s technology design house?

A: Eventually, China will be a threat to everybody. However, China is not perfect. The (employee) turnover rate is far too high. Our turnover rate at the TSMC facility in China was as high as 30 percent a few years ago. We have managed to get it down to 15 percent, but even that is too high. The employees are not loyal. Intellectual property protection is difficult. Innovation has never been a strong suit in the Chinese universities. They don’t develop a young person’s innovative abilities. A few top Chinese universities have changed.

最終,中國將是所有人的威脅
中國廠員工離職率很高 30%

It’s not a very good environment. So I don’t think of them as an unstoppable juggernaut.

Q: The global economy is once again wobbly. How does it look from your vantage point ?
A: I think the next year may not be very good, which is disappointing, because earlier this year we thought this year was going to be quite good. We really thought the economy was going to recover. Now we have not only pretty much given up (on 2011 being a global economic turnaround year), we are even worried about next year. It doesn’t look like we are going to exit this year with any momentum at all.


We have built our company to last through these (difficult times). Even when business is bad, and the utilization of our fab is very low, we still make money. The Taiwanese culture is to avoid layoffs at all costs. We have never had layoffs.


Contact John Boudreau at 408-278-3496.


Morris Chang


Age: 80

Birthplace: Ningbo, China

Title: Founder, chairman, CEO of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co.

Education: Bachelor’s, master’s degrees in mechanical engineering, Massachusetts Institute of Technology; doctorate in electrical engineering, Stanford University

Previous positions: Management positions at Sylvania Semiconductor, Texas Instruments and General Instrument and head of the Industrial Technology Research Institute, a government-sponsored research organization in Taiwan.

Residence: Splits his time between Taipei and Hsinchu, Taiwan.

Family: Married; one daughter from first marriage and two stepdaughters


5 Things About Morris Chang


1. He wanted to be a writer, but his father persuaded him otherwise.


2. He enjoys playing bridge.


3. He is a fan of classical music.


4. He travels to Silicon Valley a few times a year, where TSMC has its North American headquarters.


5. His favorite computing device: BlackBerry.

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